As a digital media company that has been around for 15 years, Atlas Obscura is effectively ancient. (The internet is measured in dog years obviously) The rise of Facebook, the pivot to video, vice, buzzfeed,  influencers, the creator economy, Web3, the pivot to short form video (again), substack, bundling and unbundling.... There amidst it all, Atlas Obscura has been a quiet cartographer, navigating the Amazon (Web Services) attempting to find a middle path in an ever changing ecosystem. Forget about the future, in this chat we will attempt to map the present of digital media and perhaps try and figure out if that is the sound of a waterfall up ahead... 

Dylan Thuras is the co-founder and creative director of AtlasObscura.com, the collaborative  guide to the world's hidden wonders with eight million visitors each month. He is the co-author of three New York Times bestsellers Atlas Obscura, Gastro Obscura, and The Explorer's Guide for The World's Most Adventurous Kid. Dylan is the host of Brand USA's Small Town Big Story TV seres as well as the number one travel podcast in the US, The Atlas Obscura Podcast. Dylan lives in the Hudson Valley with his wife Michelle, and two kids, Phineas and Jean where he manages to kill his tomato plants every. single. year.