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Heidi Holder and Josh Goldblum discuss the Met's 81st Street Studio, the free play space hailed by Fast Company and the New York Times. The pair examine how the Studio rethinks the museum's traditional rules of engagement, letting play guide inspiration. They identify strategies for meaningful innovation, from developing vision and overcoming internal obstacles to interdisciplinary iteration, and consider how such spaces can disrupt the status quo.

Chair of Education at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, leading initiatives in art and wellbeing, equity in museums, and community-focused educational programs.